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ENGLISH VERSION CULTURE WAR

That right that was united every day by the
– I would also like to know how CULTURaL WaR/ pOLITICaL [pageS 50 TO 53] affection of total war – what psychoanalysts,
you decided to get involved in this since the 1930s and 1940s, knew as the
monitoring of the networks, of the INTERVENTION: LOVE production of a schizo-paranoid psychic
Bolsonarista mediasphere. DOESN’T MEAN MUCH position, and which Freud named group
As a trained historian, I have always dynamics in 1920 – had fundamental role
been very interested in the military a qUeSTION FOR TaLeS ab’SábeR* in the historical case, by self-organizing
period. And I read a lot on the subject. in networks and given the right to free-
Furthermore, at my university, two at thE End oF 2022, on the eve of the most for-all of all kinds, in fact criminal in a
colleagues who I always respected decisive election in Brazil’s destiny, João democracy. Its main method was the lie,
greatly for their intelligence, Cezar de Castro Rocha pointed to the social hyperbole, slander without limits,
correctness, and integrity, began in film Intervention: Love doesn’t mean much , without charge or need for checking:
2017 to send messages that I considered the work of the film collective Rewald and the unpunished possession of the word,
curious. To make a long story short, Ab›Sáber and the free journalist Gustavo all done to call for the identification of a
they became radical Bolsonarists, Aranda , as a prominent understanding “new” people ready for anything, at least
which surprised me a lot. So I began of what led us to the dark times of in symbol, or in the false symbol. During
to become interested in trying to Bolsonarism. At the time, the critic asked the period of the great national Lavajatist
understand the phenomenon, how the following question to Tales Ab›Sáber, demonstrations called and mobilized by
these people had allowed themselves the psychoanalyst and filmmaker who made groups of the new so-called liberal right, in
to be so ensnared by such obviously the film, who reconstructed the history fact violently neoliberal and contrary to the
mistaken conspiracy theories. of its political reception and its revealing social parameters of the 1988 Constitution,
nature of the country›s impasses. with the tacit and strategic support of the
– You always say that you large communication networks and the
promised yourself not to get sick. What João Cezar de Castro Rocha – In his political identification of their journalists
does that mean? documentary Intervention, Love doesn’t so-called professionals with their desire
This point of not getting sick was mean much , he anticipated many of the for impeachment, that anything-goes
very important for me. I didn’t have horrors that today want to dominate the right-wing, delirium and sadism of
social media, I didn’t have Twitter or Brazilian scene. How can we understand victory through lies – which they excitedly
Instagram. There was only Facebook. that the delirium of conspiracy theories enjoyed – had around 15% of protesters on
I joined both in February 2020 and has become a political reality for tens of the streets, according to research at the
began to study the culture war in more thousands of people? time. They were those who went out with
depth. When I thought I had some banners asking, crying out, demanding,
understanding of what was going on. Such Ab’Sáber –What can a work of they said in the film, a constitutional
I decided to start participating in the culture, art or criticism do if its community military intervention. In other words, a
public debate more actively. He took refuses to see it, accept it, receive it? In classic Brazilian coup, in which the armed
it as a civic commitment to decipher fact, in 2016 we made this film, me, the forces take power and ruin democracy
the Bolsonarist sphinx. In fact, initially filmmaker and professor at eCa USp Rubens and life in the country. At the end of the
it was a sphinx, because it was not Rewald and the editor and free journalist process of degradation of Brazilian policy
understood exactly how the man Gustavo Aranda. When I showed them, parameters, in 2018,the candidate who
who was so obviously limited from a back in 2015, what was happening on the stated things in those terms of violence
cognitive point of view, from the point networks and chats of an extreme right that and anything goes of all kinds reached 58
of view of basic knowledge, how it was was organizing for a new way of warfare million votes in Brazil... Today the Brazilian
possible for him to excite such a large on the internet, they were very impressed coup plotters, now directed and guided by
number of people, who saw him literally and we started working immediately. We a grotesque fascist leader, with his office
like a leader, a myth. So there was followed the entire process of Dilma’s fall, of professional hatred multiplied on the
this initial desire for understanding until mid-2016, observing the life, action networks, which threatens us every week
and this desire, once I joined social and “thought” of this delusional, violent and every day with the worst of the worst,
media, for me it was very important and virulent “new” right, as it expanded reached 30%: those who accept anything
to not allow myself to start engaging in a contagious and widespread way on and everything for Bolsonaro, from the false
in the same behavior. And I believe the networks. Its intensities, facilitations, remedy to inflation, from global isolation
that many comrades on the left have simplistic paranoid logic and right to any to the preliminary destruction of fragile
not always managed to successfully lie, until reaching the strength of delusion, democracy, from the farcical coup based
avoid what I call this illness, that is, in in this case the lie shared as a political nothing to the corruption and destruction
this necessarily aggressive, violent desire – the film demonstrated – immensely of the State by true imbeciles. The film
way, the inability to listen to others, facilitated the adherence of Brazilian social was at the root of this process, catching
the inability to accept that someone resentment and authoritarian ignorance to in full flight, or egg..., two fundamental
disagrees with your opinion. In other that world, a destructive affective, collective dimensions of the new politics of the
words, this radicalization, this desire fictional world. Every political and technical extreme right, neo-fascist, in Brazil: the
to reduce the world to a mirror, which fascist movement seeks to operate at the system of fascist propaganda of a new
the extreme right ultimately achieves. level of a psychic conversion: from the cultural industry of lies and violence on the
And it’s curious, because the extreme subject of the dream, mediated reason networks, and the fusion of such a material
right has many structural affinities with and the social contract, it passes to the war machine with the war machine of desire,
the universe of social networks itself. group of delirium, the immediate fulfillment the lie/violence/delusion system that
To some extent, the operation of the in desire and the passage to the act, the modulated it. Attracting the false morality
algorithm is the far-right worldview right to political violence, which is initially of authoritarians, creating a unified voice
itself. expressed as an act of language as shock. for political ignorance, common images

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