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It’s a very important,
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movement because it brings a new continent
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in the story, in the discussion,
in the conversation.
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And for us,
it was a very interesting process to be
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coming here in Brazil
and to interrogate, as curators ourselves
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about the situation of the,
women here, Afro-Brazilian women.
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So it it enlarged the questions
about how women,
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emancipating themselves through art
and how intimate,
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personal practices can become something
that becomes public and even political.
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So for me personally, it was really,
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an adventure that I loved
because I discovered a lot.
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I read about Brazil,
I read about women in Brazil,
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and I have learned a lot
about the history of the country,
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the history of the women.
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And it really opened up my, understanding
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of the history of slavery,
of emancipation of women.
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So, yeah, it was very personally crucial.
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And also for the show,
I think it gives a new strong, vision,
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which is, something
we had not thought about in 2021
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when we did the show in Paris
and when we did it in Africa,
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in Abidjan and in Rwanda.
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But,
it’s really nourishing and enriching.
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contribution of each of us draws something
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and we listen to each other,
we learn from each other.
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And what we built up is really,
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something that we did not expect to be
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that, powerful and that impressive.
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So, yeah, I think we are.
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We had a good dialog.
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We had good conversations.
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We shared, books we liked.
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For example,
we dedicated the show to Coco.
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Who was this, director of the museum
in South Africa
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sites, Moca, and who was also the curator
of the future, Biennial in Venice.
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She died a few months ago,
and we all knew her.
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And we thought it’s important
to dedicate the show to her
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because she’s very important
in the comprehension of what
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African artists can do
in, in, this global scene.
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So we decided to,
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and it was all of us.
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I mean,
it was so easy to just dedicate her, so.
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Yeah.