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WILD TALES ENGLISH VERSION

           Maybe we’re even seeing a reflow that? In function of this reactionary   what would happen. This because it wasn’t even a year ago
           backlash, a more intense clash around important issues. Things seem
           to be getting tougher?                              In Pinacoteca programming we can notice some power lines and a
           I’m a big believer in the power of art. I am convinced that   weight of burning issues like gender and race discussions. ‘Radical
           art always survives. Obviously in favourable moments   Women presents itself as one of the great highlights?
           she takes other forms, but she also rises from the   I think it’s important to understand that it is a historical
           resistance Already culture doesn’t. Culture is a little   exhibition, which is being organized by the Hammer
           that vocabulary that we create collectively in order to   Museum in Los Angeles . There are two curators, Cecilia
           talk about it, understand our being in the world, in a   Fajardo-Hill and the Argentinian Andrea Giunta, who for
           more complex form.                                  seven years has been doing a search, looking for art
           I like using this parallel more obvious, between culture   developed by women artists of the years 1960 to 1985
           and agriculture. When we throw poison in a terrain,   . A clearly defined period in which women artists have
           nothing else grows and we lose that richness and the   taken an increasingly leading role within the reinvention
           consciousness of this wealth. I’m more concerned with the   of art .Which is very cute in this exhibition is that it shows
           culture, from which we can establish, defend and resist   clearly that, although many have been lonely activists,
           these super and ultra conservative radicals invasions.   they don’t were alone. They are are part of a group of
           I’m more worried about losing those memories-lose for   people, research, much bigger than a single achievement.
           example this notion that we were talking about integration
           between a poetic, a policy, a concept and a formal,   An art outside the paradigms?
           something that is so unique and differential in brazilian   I see that this exhibition has a role, that’s why we’re doing
           art, That’s very sad                                this effort to bring it here, in it’s single Latin America
                                                               roaming. We can highlight three very interesting points.
           How to face it?                                     One is the fact to look at art made by women artists during
           I think people have to make much effort to defend our   this period; another is the emphasis given to the media and
           institutions as plural space. Diversity is the only way.   forms of expression that were invented by these artists,
           We can learn by example with indigenous cultures which   that today we understand as part of our vocabulary, but
           clearly grow the earth in multiple ways, always seeking   that in fact we do not know the source. Finally, perhaps
           the diversity. If something is being threatened, there are   this is one of the largest exhibitions ever made about Latin
           other ways that hold culture together. We are living in a   American art. It doesn’t look the Colombian art, Brazilian
           historical situation in which diversity is being attacked,   art, the Chilean art, anyway. She really tells a story of a
           the multiplicity is being reduced to a single predominant   generation, in within a continent, a cultural complex, an
           narrative and it is very dangerous. The lead role of cultural   extremely wide form, something that is rarely see
           institutions is to promote diversity, the plurality create
           shapes, inclusive programs for all, understand that the   You stand out any more exhibition of programming?
           languages are many, the speeches are many. Is our role  I think another highlight will be the next big exhibition,
                                                               which opens after the Di Cavalcanti: a retrospective
            You could make a balance of the 32nd Biennial? It was a biennial   of Hilma af Klint, a Swede, who graduated in the 80s
           that broke several paradigms and the notion of uncertainty, that   of the 19th century, a time when many things that are
           leads the exhibitiont seems more and more present today.   not visible became visible, as the x-ray , radio, etc. She
           For me it is very curious that, is a process that is still in   began communicating with energies, created automatic
           progress instead of closing in December, she deployed   drawing techniques, to explore this field still untapped
           a lot of other dialogues.Went through twelve Brazilian   in a very innovative form. And, at the beginning of
           cities, went to Bogota, to Porto, in Portugal, she is very   the 20th century, began to develop an “abstract”art
           much alive. Issues that we develop as main axes -the   extremely revolutionary.
           worldviews, education, the idea of narratives, the multiple
           identities and ecology – are precisely those issues that    Early revolutionary right?
           are being threatened on a daily basis               Super early. Before everyone. Was one of the pioneers.
                                                               And most surprising, worked on a huge scale. There is
           Exactly. Are by these fronts that we identify the kickback?  for instance a set of ten large canvases, paintings by
           All we have lived, the kickback or the control by capital,   3.50 by 2.40 meters of dimension. In art history, it took
           the lust for power by power, is all around. Our resources   a long time to get on this scale. And she developed a
           in Brazil are all in play. The ecology, diversity, the   very interesting practice, based on a serial operation.
           multiplicity, the indigenous question. But the discussion   It is very impressive. When she died in 1944, asked in
           is not over and it’s funny, because during the biennial,   her will that this work could not be showed over twenty
           in those three months she had 900,000 visitors, had no   years for no one. It remains locked until the years 1960.
           problem with this order here in Sao Paulo. But I’m sure   The family wanted to donate this work to the Pontus
           that if we were to open today the same Biennial that was   Hultén, who was the Director of the Moderna Museet in
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